{"id":640,"date":"2020-09-03T06:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-09-03T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/restorationarchives.com\/blog\/?p=640"},"modified":"2020-08-17T14:38:15","modified_gmt":"2020-08-17T20:38:15","slug":"youth-qa-session-the-heavens-are-open-conference","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restorationarchives.com\/blog\/index.php\/2020\/09\/03\/youth-qa-session-the-heavens-are-open-conference\/","title":{"rendered":"Youth Q&#038;A Session, The Heavens Are Open Conference"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1683\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-640-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/lightandtruth\/www.denversnuffer.net\/podcast\/episodes\/2020.03.22_LT065_Youth-Q-and-A.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/lightandtruth\/www.denversnuffer.net\/podcast\/episodes\/2020.03.22_LT065_Youth-Q-and-A.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/lightandtruth\/www.denversnuffer.net\/podcast\/episodes\/2020.03.22_LT065_Youth-Q-and-A.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/lightandtruth\/www.denversnuffer.net\/podcast\/episodes\/2020.03.22_LT065_Youth-Q-and-A.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/restorationarchives.com\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=640-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/lightandtruth\/www.denversnuffer.net\/podcast\/episodes\/2020.03.22_LT065_Youth-Q-and-A.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"2020.03.22_LT065_Youth-Q-and-A.mp3\">Download<\/a> (Duration: 59:07 &#8212; 68.6MB)<\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/light-and-truth-podcast\/id1474389927?mt=2&amp;ls=1\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_itunes\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Apple Podcasts\" rel=\"nofollow\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/restorationarchives.com\/blog\/index.php\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<p>This youth question and answer session with Denver and Stephanie Snuffer was recorded at the &#8220;Heavens are Open Conference&#8221; on March 22, 2020 in Hurricane, Utah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.denversnuffer.net\/podcast\/transcripts\/2020.03.22%20Q&amp;A%20Session%20-%20The%20Heavens%20Are%20Open%20Conference,%20Hurricane,%20UT.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Transcript<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p>There were some questions that got submitted beforehand, and there are also questions coming in live. I\u2019ll take one that was submitted beforehand.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWhy are there no female writers in the Scriptures? Why are there no accounts of women receiving their Second Comforters? Thank you for the opportunity to ask questions.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, number one, we don\u2019t always know who wrote down the Scriptures. We don\u2019t know who the scribes were. In fact, it\u2019s likely, in particular in the Book of Judges, that some of the accounts are clearly reliant upon women to provide the information. And in the Book of Luke, the&nbsp;<em>only<\/em>&nbsp;source that could have provided information about the private contact between Mary and the angel\u2014that is the source that Luke relied upon for his account\u2014would have been Mary. And so, did Luke have access to an account written by Mary? Did Luke interview her? There\u2019s a lot we don\u2019t know about the generation of Scripture and who the scribes were. So, the question assumes something about which we don\u2019t have enough information to say Scriptures aren\u2019t the product of a woman\u2019s effort or a woman\u2019s writing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Okay, so\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay, I\u2019m on the\u2014&nbsp;I\u2019m looking through some of these, so I\u2019ll be looking down. We\u2019re going to divide some of them up, and some of them just won\u2019t get answered, \u2018cause that\u2019s the way the world works. So\u2014&nbsp;And some of them will be addressed not necessarily answering questions, but just getting some insight about some other things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, the first one talks about families\u2014parents, families&#8230;being dedicated to the LDS Church and think they\u2019re apostates&#8230;not arguing, but you can\u2019t talk spiritual things and, you know, can we get our families back? And then it follows up with an actual question that I\u2019m not going to answer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But what I am going to talk about is&nbsp;if the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith, the Sermon on the Mount, the Sermon at Bountiful, Gospel principles are not good enough for you to talk with your family members about, then you\u2019re focusing on the wrong things. Because if all you\u2019re talking with your family members about are the things that divide you, like which conference you go to or which leader you follow, then that onus is on you. So, I would suggest that instead of worrying about the things that you don\u2019t have in common, that you talk about the things that you do have in common.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I spend an enormous amount of time talking with people I know and love,&nbsp;who are on all spectrums of their traveling back to God,&nbsp;about Gospel principles because we have those in common. And that would be my suggestion\u2014and that goes for your family members, for your friends, for the people you still go to church with, for the people that you used to go to church with.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The missionary effort you\u2019re engaged in just does not stop, didn\u2019t stop, and shouldn\u2019t stop when you decided to worship somewhere else or when somebody decided to make you worship somewhere else. Bring it back to what you know, bring it back to what you have in common, and stop thinking you\u2019re better than they are. \u2018Cause we\u2019re all working towards the same goal, we\u2019re just doing it in a real\u2014 We might be doing it in very different ways.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;This reminds me of an incident that happened. Rob had his daughter, his youngest daughter, on the back of his motorcycle. I think I had Nathan on the back of mine. A group of us were on our way out to Sturgis, and we were south of Newcastle, Wyoming, at a gas station where we were getting some water to drink, and on our way there. And there\u2019s a fellow who was there sitting on the benches next to us outside, getting a little bit of rest from the ride. He was from Colorado, and he was a welder, \u2018kay? So, Rob\u2019s a construction contractor, I\u2019m a lawyer, and this guy\u2019s a welder; and we\u2019re all at the same gas station at the same time on our way out to Sturgis. We have absolutely&nbsp;<em>nothing<\/em>&nbsp;in common except the motorcycles and the Harley rally out in Sturgis, South Dakota\u2014and that was enough.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We had a&nbsp;<em>great<\/em>&nbsp;visit. He told us stories that were pretty funny. And I noted that he lacked some hygiene attention that I expect to be usual and customary, and he probably thought I was a bit dainty for a biker. But it didn\u2019t matter! We had one thing in common, and that was enough. And for those moments in that gas station in Wyoming, probably 15 years ago now, we were buddies. If you\u2019ve got something in common, that\u2019s enough.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Was that when Jessie drank out of the water bottle?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yes, and that was<em>&nbsp;the guy<\/em>&nbsp;whose water he drank! So, I\u2019m not telling the rest of that story.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yes, exactly! Yeah, do not pick up water bottles that you do not know who they belong to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay, I got one here. An eleven year old who feels like the future is pointless\u2026 This breaks my heart. (Oh sorry, Reed\u2014whoever\u2014I just smacked the thing.) \u201cI want to have dreams and goals, but everything is changing and unpredictable. How am I supposed to care, or what should I care about?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, we have kids. You know, I have older kids\u2014not an eleven year old anymore,&nbsp;but kids who want to grow up and have kids. And I want to see my grandkids grow up! And you know, we had an earthquake in Salt Lake on, whatever, and it was&nbsp;<em>super freaky<\/em>! And then, on top of Coronavirus, we\u2019re all sitting around going, \u201cWhat the, what the,&nbsp;<em>what<\/em>&nbsp;is going on?!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, the day of the coming of the Lord is unknown. Scripturally, it is known&nbsp;<em>only<\/em>&nbsp;to our Creator. So, sitting around\u2014and I don\u2019t mean to be flippant, especially to this beautiful eleven\u2013year-old question\u2014but sitting around, and worrying, and wondering is\u2026it\u2019s not healthy. And it doesn\u2019t help. And so, the only thing I&nbsp;<em>can<\/em>&nbsp;say, because I can\u2019t answer to how much time is actually left\u2014and neither can he [indicating Denver]\u2014is \u201c<em>act as if.<\/em>\u201d That\u2019s the thing I want you to remember: Act as if.&nbsp;<em>Act as if<\/em>&nbsp;you\u2019re going to go to school when you\u2019re not quarantined anymore, and then go to school.&nbsp;<em>Act as if<\/em>&nbsp;you\u2019re going to graduate from high school.&nbsp;<em>Act as if&nbsp;<\/em>you are going to go on to college, and get a degree, and get married, and have kids, because the likelihood of that happening for many of us is pretty high.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There is no answer about when things are going to end. You can pay attention to the signs, and you can look around and you can see things happening, but if you let that stop you from&nbsp;<em>acting<\/em><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><em>as if<\/em><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong>you\u2019re going to finish middle school, and then go to high school, and then go to college, and get married, and have kids, and have grandkids, then you\u2019re going to sit in a place of despair and frustration and pointlessness. And I&nbsp;<em>do not<\/em>&nbsp;recommend that. It is not a good place to be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, the other thing I would say to this particular question: Talk to the people you love. You don\u2019t have to sit with this being fearful and being afraid and being worried. And if you don\u2019t have people around you who are hopeful, then expand your circle a little bit and find some more people who are willing to be hopeful and encouraging, and help you see that every day you have is a gift from God. So,&nbsp;<em>Act As If.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Hmmm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Do you want to do one?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<strong>\u201c<\/strong>For women who are alone, do you have any thoughts about having those with authority bless over the phone or the Internet?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don\u2019t have a problem with that. Peter didn\u2019t lay hands on anyone when he walked by and healed the person in the gate to the temple. I think you could. If you\u2019re at a remote location and there\u2019s no one there with authority, I think you could bless the Sacrament over the Internet. I think you can give a blessing over the Internet. I think you can do it having the voice alone, because the intent\u2014&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Christ did not go<em>&nbsp;to<\/em>&nbsp;the house. The Roman said, \u201cI\u2019m not worthy to have You enter in my house, and it wouldn\u2019t be kosher for You to come into my house. Just speak the word, and my daughter will be healed.\u201d And He spoke the word. And then, as he\u2019s returning from the conversation with Christ, news comes and greets him on the way that tells him that his daughter was healed. And he asked, \u201cWhen did that happen?\u201d And it was in the self-same hour as when he was visiting with the Lord (see Matthew 4:2 RE).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don\u2019t see any reason why people of faith today can\u2019t operate on the same basis that we see in Scripture\u2014Peter and the Lord, both.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;He knew Him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:&nbsp;<\/strong>\u201cHow can you tell if you have truly forgiven someone?\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That was one that came in that I thought you ought to answer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Oh. How do you tell if you\u2019ve truly forgiven someone?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:&nbsp;<\/strong>Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:&nbsp;<\/strong>Didn\u2019t that\u2014&nbsp;That corresponded with another one that we were talking about. Basically, you\u2019re not worried about it any more. I don\u2019t know, is that too simple? I figure\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;You forget about it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. I figure if you\u2019ve forgiven someone, you\u2014&nbsp;If you\u2019ve actually forgiven someone\u2014&nbsp;In the context of this question,&nbsp;if you have actually forgiven the person that you\u2019re thinking about in this question, you wouldn\u2019t be asking the question. So, I don\u2019t know, too simple?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. I can\u2019t remember<em>&nbsp;one single thing<\/em>&nbsp;my wife\u2019s ever done that\u2019s wrong.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Stop! That is just utter trash!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;She remembers&nbsp;<em>everything<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;I do, I do.&nbsp; Do you want to tell them why? Tell them why.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;No, I think it\u2019s okay. I\u2019m not going to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Oh, you\u2019re not going to tell them why I remember? Whatever.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:&nbsp;<\/strong>Okay. \u201cIn the account of the transfiguration of Jesus and His second visit to the Nephites, the text makes comment about the whiteness of Jesus\u2019 raiment\u2014in the later account, the whiteness of His disciples\u2019 raiment. Will you share with us an increased understanding about the explanation of a demonstration of Jesus\u2019 disciples having no sin\u2014why it would be important to point to \u2018raiment?\u2019 Clearly, it\u2019s an illusion to being clean and victorious over sin\u2026\u201d and then, so on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Anyway. Yeah, I can point you to something. There\u2019s a\u2014 You can find it as a recording, but it\u2019s much, much better as a transcript of the paper itself, called \u201cTreasures in the Heavens,\u201d written by Hugh Nibley. If you hear it as a recording, you\u2019re just going to assume he\u2019s talking. If you read it as a transcript, you\u2019re going to realize that more than 45% of the words of the entire article are quotes from early, but obscure, Christian sources.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The \u201cTreasures in the Heaven,\u201d among other things, is a white robe that was laid aside before you come to this earth, that is kept in safe-keeping under the throne of God\u2014that is yours to&nbsp;<em>lose<\/em>,<em>&nbsp;<\/em>here, or to&nbsp;<em>reclaim<\/em>&nbsp;if you do what\u2019s required,&nbsp;<em>and<\/em>&nbsp;to have more added to it if you are true and faithful and you give diligence and heed.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And the article is actually, I think, relying upon obscure Christian sources because they were considered sacred, and they\u2019re not widely disseminated. They didn\u2019t make their way into Scripture. But you\u2019ll learn a lot about sacred clothing and ascension and purposes of a temple. \u201cTreasures in the Heaven\u201d\u2014interesting article. You can get it on\u2014&nbsp;I found it on the Internet just by searching, \u2018Hugh Nibley Treasures in the Heaven.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Me, too.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Do you want to do another one, or do you want me to?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;No, I\u2019ve got to see what I\u2019m looking at.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Alright. This one came in this morning. \u201cWhy doesn\u2019t God talk about science in Scriptures? I have learned about symbolic things in my chemistry, microbiology, and astronomy classes that denote there is a God, but I\u2019ve always wondered why the laws of nature and scientific ideas are never discussed.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, we\u2019re going to break this one up. First thing I would say is, I don\u2019t know, I tend to think that science&nbsp;<em>is<\/em>&nbsp;God. Now I know scien<em>tists<\/em>&nbsp;don\u2019t think that, and they\u2019re looking for ways to disconnect science and God. But I happen to believe that if there was no God, there would be no science,&nbsp;and they wouldn\u2019t have jobs. And so, to me, there is no separate\u2014&nbsp;There is literally no separation. So, the fact that this person is&nbsp;<em>finding<\/em>&nbsp;God in microbiology and chemistry and astronomy is no surprise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The second thing I would say is I am finding science in human growth and development. I am finding sci\u2014&nbsp;Did I say \u201cscience\u201d or \u201cGod\u201d?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;You said science, but you meant God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Oh, no, I\u2019m not finding science. Well, I might be finding that too, but that\u2019s not what I meant. I am finding<em>God<\/em>&nbsp;in human growth and development. I am finding God in counseling theories and practices. I am finding God in substance abuse principles. I am finding God in every textbook I am currently engaged in. So, I would say, much like Jeff said earlier, God is everywhere. And the fact that we should never limit our search for God, or even our presumption of finding Him, to Scripture\u2014which is a wonderful place to find Him\u2014but if I can find Him in substance abuse practices and principles, you can certainly find him in astronomy and microbiology. And then you\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. But all things bear testimony of Christ\u2014<em>all things<\/em>. Whether they are on the earth or under the earth or in the earth or above the earth, all things bear testimony of Christ. The Scriptures say so. You think about the caterpillarthat\u2019s a pest, that\u2019s something to wreck your garden, that goes into a cocoon\u2014and then it comes out of the cocoon, and it\u2019s now something that helps fertilize and pollinate. And it leaves its grubby, earthly confines to become airborne and colorful, and a contributor to life and to your gardening. It\u2019s the same animal. And tell me&nbsp;<em>that<\/em>&nbsp;isn\u2019t a testimony of Christ. All things bear testimony of Him, and science simply ratifies that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Do you want to do that one?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver: \u201c\u2018<\/strong>Thou shalt not kill; he that killeth shall die\u2019 (see T&amp;C 26:6 RE). Are we required to be pacifists?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No. I mean, the Book of Mormon\u2014&nbsp;How many war chapters are there in the Book of Mormon? I mean, it\u2019s a guide to the method by which violence is to be accomplished. You&nbsp;<em>protect&nbsp;<\/em>the innocent. You use violence to defend families and children and to prevent offenses and abuses, but you don\u2019t use it to abuse. And if the person that is the threat, as they do in the Book of Mormon, agrees to lay down arms and no longer be a threat, then there\u2019s no reason to continue onward. You meet with force that which is destructive, only at the level required to\u2014according to the Book of Mormon\u2014to deal with the threat. And upon the threat having been dealt with, then you stop.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Clark Aposhian\u2014who is the big gun-rights advocate,&nbsp;and teaches the self-defense, and gets everyone their concealed weapon&nbsp;as a consultant for the Utah legislature\u2014says that you fire your first warning shot into the torso of the person, and you continue to do so until he\u2019s \u201c<em>utterly neutralized<\/em>.\u201d And you leave no witnesses other than yourself about what happened there\u2014at least when he taught me the concealed carry permit. But that seems a little non-Book of Mormon-ish.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay. All right, this one, \u201cWill you\u2014\u201d This is for you. \u201cWill you explain the difference between the \u2018Kingdom of God\u2019 and the \u2018Government of God\u2019? And what does it look like to get into the Kingdom?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:&nbsp;<\/strong>In one sense, they\u2019re synonymous, but the term\u2014 The usage of the term is a little different when you\u2019re talking about mortality. You can have the Kingdom of God any time God, as<em>&nbsp;the King<\/em>, is speaking. So, as soon as God is speaking and there are people that are giving heed to what the King is saying, they are subordinate to the King, and therefore,<em>&nbsp;there<\/em>is the Kingdom of God; it exists.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The \u2018Family of God\u2019 is really a Holy Order, requiring ordinances and things to take place. And in the&nbsp;<em>afterlife<\/em>, the \u2018Government of God\u2019 or the \u2018Kingdom of God\u2019 and the \u2018Family of God\u2019 are all synonymous. In&nbsp;<em>this world<\/em>, the Family of God doesn\u2019t get truly organized but on rare occasions, but the Kingdom of God has appeared a number of times. The Kingdom of God was with John,&nbsp;as Joseph put it,&nbsp;while John was crying repentance in the wilderness and people were coming out to him\u2014<em>there<\/em><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong>was the Kingdom of God (see&nbsp;<em>Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith<\/em>, pg. 271). And the Kingdom of God was here when Joseph was talking because God was administering, in effect, what was taking place; and so, you had the Kingdom of God. The Family of God is another challenge, and it\u2019s a little more rare.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How about this one: \u201cThe Scripture Glossary says, \u2018Because the Father\u2019s power was what came through and because the Father had attained to the resurrection, it was impossible for the Father\u2019s plan to fail. The Father had already taken care of redeeming all the creations under His hand\u2019 (see T&amp;C: A Glossary of Gospel Terms, \u201cSurety, Christ As\u201d). If a creation can be redeemed by the Father, through the power of the resurrection He has already attained, can you help me understand Christ\u2019s motivations for creating and coming to redeem this world, aside from personal growth?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Joseph touches on this stuff in the King Follett discourse, in which he talks about Christ attaining to the exaltation, to the throne of the Father, so that the Father can go to yet another&nbsp;<em>higher<\/em>&nbsp;exaltation. Well, it is never possible for the works to fail, because the glory and the power of the Father was given to the Son so that this creation could be made through the power of the Son as the<strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><em>Creator<\/em>\u2014because He had to be the Creator in order to be the Redeemer. So, the Father\u2019s power through the Son creates this universe, and the Son, by His sacrifice, redeems this universe. But it&nbsp;<em>could not<\/em>&nbsp;fail, because if Christ were to fail, it was the power of the Father, and He had the power then to redeem.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s&nbsp;<em>always impossible<\/em>&nbsp;for the works of the Father to fail, which is why when Christ is bearing testimony&nbsp;(He\u2019s teaching the Nephites), He\u2019s always saying, \u201cThe Father told me to say this to you. The Father told me to command you. The Father told me this is the doctrine. This is the doctrine my Father gave me. This is the doctrine; it\u2019s the only doctrine that will save.\u201d When He introduces Himself to the Nephites, He refers three times in one short paragraph\u2014three times\u2014by identifying who He is by reference to the Father: \u201cI\u2019ve suffered the will of the Father in all things. I\u2019ve glorified the name of the Father. I\u2019ve taken upon me the sins of the world in order to do the works of the Father\u201d (see 3 Nephi 5:4 RE).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Savior is an extension of the will of the Father. But fidelity and strict compliance with the works of the Father were done, in order that Christ may&nbsp;<em>then<\/em>&nbsp;sit on the throne of the Father, and the Father can move on to a higher exaltation\u2014because<em>&nbsp;that is the plan of salvation,<\/em>&nbsp;and Christ represents the prototype of the saved man.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What&nbsp;<em>we<\/em>&nbsp;saw Him do on&nbsp;<em>this<\/em>&nbsp;world was the final step in the process of qualifying to&nbsp;<em>attain<\/em>&nbsp;to the resurrection, do what the Father did, and sit on the throne of the Father. That was the last step to be taken\u2014we got a chance to witness it here. But the Father had done that before. And the Son will then, sitting on the throne of the Father, continue the works that He saw His Father do&nbsp;in others. And ultimately, the plan continues, worlds without end. But read the King Follett discourse, it will help you. (For one possible source, see&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/byustudies.byu.edu\/content\/king-follett-discourse-newly-amalgamated-text\">www.byustudies.byu.edu\/content\/king-follett-discourse-newly-amalgamated-text<\/a>.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay, do you want me to do one?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can finish this. I\u2019ll just sit here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay, then we\u2019re done.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;No, do another one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay. It says, \u201cIn your\u2014\u201d He would never answer this one.&nbsp;<strong>\u201c<\/strong>In your opinion, is it better to pray for a soulmate, to pray for someone that would be a good mate, to try and date like-\u2026\u201d (these are one, two, and three) \u201c&#8230;to try and date like-minded people, or to just live our lives as good as we can and see what happens, or&nbsp; five, something else?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;I\u2019d say, five.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Five, something else?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;What are&nbsp;<em>you<\/em>&nbsp;saying?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;I say all of them, to some extent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Dude. She had 1500 first dates!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;No, I only had 500 first dates.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;She had innumerable first dates! I was the only one who ever took her on a second date.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Totally, that is not even true.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2018Cause I\u2019m a brave soul. So, you would say some of all of this?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;I would say a little bit of all of this, okay? And I\u2019m going to speak from the perspective of a mother, alright?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeah, life is a little more complicated than it used to be in terms of, I don\u2019t know, finding someone whose values you share. I know in our family, we\u2019ve sort of transitioned.&nbsp;It\u2019s more important to find someone whose values you share than whose religion you share, okay? I\u2019ll go that far. And, it\u2019s\u2026&nbsp;I think&#8230;&nbsp;(I had such good things in my head a minute ago. I think you distracted me.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don\u2019t personally believe in soulmates\u2014although, he is definitely mine. I don\u2019t think we should settle for someone that\u2019s&nbsp;<em>just<\/em>&nbsp;a good mate, because I think God cares more about all of us than just\u2014 \u2018Good\u2019 just sounds so much like \u2018adequate,\u2019 you know? And we should be striving for more than adequate.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Certainly, hanging around and being with like-minded people is a good idea, but \u2018like-minded people\u2019 does not mean they either have to be<em>&nbsp;this<\/em>&nbsp;thing or part of&nbsp;<em>this<\/em>&nbsp;group or part of&nbsp;<em>this<\/em>&nbsp;group. You can find like-minded people in a lot of places that aren\u2019t part of your&nbsp;<em>groups<\/em>, if that makes any sense. You just have to be willing to sort of stretch yourself a little bit. And then you should&nbsp;<em>always<\/em>&nbsp;live your lives the best that you can, and see what happens.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>God loves you more than you will ever\u2014more than you&nbsp;<em>can ever<\/em>\u2014comprehend. And He wants your happiness more than you can&nbsp;<em>ever&nbsp;<\/em>understand. And it\u2019s easy to think&nbsp;<em>that<\/em>&nbsp;when you\u2019re a parent, because my sort-of mantra is \u201cHe loves them better than I do.\u201d And if He loves them better than I do, then I know that if they are genuinely pursuing the best that they have, at any given moment, that He will bless them for that. And so, that is the advice I give to my kids who, you know, they\u2019re out looking for good mates, soulmates, like-minded people, and trying to live the best lives they can too. So, do a little bit of all of that, and have faith.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;There\u2019s also that comment about \u2018some people are only kept from the truth because they know not where to find it\u2019 (see T&amp;C 139:15 RE). If you share values, and you value truth and they value truth, eventually you can help them find truth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Uh-huh, yeah. I\u2019ll go to this next one. It\u2019s a little bit\u2014 It\u2019s a little bit similar. It\u2019s less about finding a mate, but\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201c<\/strong>I\u2019m currently in college&#8230;have lots of friends that question my beliefs and ask many questions of me. Since I\u2019m still trying to learn the contents of the Scriptures and be taught the truth, I feel like I don\u2019t know enough yet to be a teacher. Do you have any advice for how I can try to bring my friends closer to God at this point in my life? Should I even try, or should I wait until I feel like I have sufficiently learned enough to teach?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A couple things\u2014 I mean, I always go back to the admonition to Hyrum, which is somewhere in the T&amp;C (used to be in the D&amp;C), where, you know, \u2018seek first to learn my words before you go out and try and teach them\u2019 (see Joseph Smith History 14:14 RE). That\u2019s always a good mindset to have. But if we all wait until we know enough, we\u2019ll all just be standing around with our thumbs in our ears\u2014nobody ever going out on a limb to teach anybody anything. So\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;I don\u2019t think the thumb goes in the ear. I think\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah, well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;I think some other part of the anatomy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah, I know, but I chose the ear.&nbsp;<em>I chose the ear.<\/em>&nbsp;So, because I may think it, [whispering]&nbsp;<em>I just don\u2019t say it<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;You just don\u2019t say it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong><em>&nbsp;<\/em>[Whispering]<em>&nbsp;I just don\u2019t say it.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, I would say, again, do it all. Continually seek. I mean, I\u2019m 50-some-odd years old, and I can\u2019t tell\u2026&nbsp;I don\u2019t even think I read the Book of Mormon first through, completely through for the first time until I was in my thirties, okay? Which is not\u2014&nbsp;I\u2019m not bragging about that; I\u2019m just saying you\u2019re never done learning. And there\u2019s never\u2014 There\u2019s&nbsp;<em>always<\/em>&nbsp;time to learn. So yes, please continue to read the Scriptures and learn the truth, and surround yourself with people who can teach you the truth. And then, when you have the opportunity with your friends to bring up subjects or have conversations about religious principles, Gospel principles, God, the universe, or anything like that, do so at your level.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The other thing that this question says: \u201cDo you have any advice for how I can try to bring my friends closer to God at this point in my life?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cTry to<strong>&nbsp;<\/strong>bring my friends closer to God,\u201d I think, is a wonderful question. \u201cTry to make my friends believe what I believe\u201d is not a good question, \u2018kay? We\u2019re not trying to make anybody believe what we believe. That sort of is not necessarily\u2014&nbsp;That\u2019s not well received. Trying to bring people closer to God can, and will probably, be received by everybody.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, my answer to this question is make sure you know what you\u2019re trying to get your friends to do, and just gauge it based on what you know right now. And be willing to have conversations about God, about Gospel principles, about the bigger, deeper meanings of what goes on in the universe. Those kinds of things will just bring people closer to God naturally. And it beats the heck out of BuzzFeed&#8230;and&nbsp;whatever other\u2014&nbsp;Twitter? (I do know these things; I\u2019m not acting like I don\u2019t.) But yeah, talk about Godly things, and that will just naturally bring people along.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;There\u2019s also a lot of videos that have been put together that are out there and available, and are conversation starters. There\u2019s a first and a second seven-part video. They\u2019re short videos\u2014you know, four to six minutes long\u2014on the Protestant Reformation and the Restoration. And there\u2019s a third video series, the first one of which just got released on the Equinox, dealing with the continuation of the Restoration. There\u2019ll be a seven\u2014 There\u2019ll be a total of seven of those, as well (see&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.learnofchrist.org\/\">www.learnofchrist.org<\/a>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And there are a lot of recordings\u2014the Restoration Archives has a whole host of recordings that are either good to listen to, good to use as a basis for conversation, or something that you can ask your friends to look at (see&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.restorationarchives.com\/\">www.restorationarchives.com<\/a>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Actually\u2026 And they\u2019re great; really, they are. And they\u2019re short, and they\u2019re easy to understand, and they\u2019re a good, general-Christian-belief-in-God way to learn things that aren\u2019t so entrenched in a specific religious movement or something.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Go ahead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;So here\u2019s one: \u201cHow do I know it\u2019s not just wishful thinking when I hear the Lord say, \u2018Your sins are forgiven?\u2019 How do I get past the distrust in my own ability to reach God and believe that He can reach me?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, first of all, the adversary doesn\u2019t forgive sins. So, if you\u2019re hearing a voice that\u2019s forgiving you of sin, that\u2019s undoubtedly a benign, good source because the adversary\u2019s not interested in that. The problem that you\u2019ve got is that then you decide not to cast it out of your memory, but you want to continue beating yourself over it. Lay it aside! Just forget it! If I\u2014&nbsp;\u201cI the Lord forgive whom I will forgive,\u201d and \u201cHe remembers it no more\u201d (see T&amp;C 45:9 RE).&nbsp;If the Lord\u2019s not going to bear it in His remembrance, why are you? Why do you want to contextualize yourself in that way? Why do you want to think of yourself in corrupt terms?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m thinking about all the great stories in literature where people in horrible circumstances managed to escape those circumstances, and go on to be good and virtuous and noble. And then you think about the Count of Monte Cristo who escaped, but never&nbsp;<em>ever<\/em>&nbsp;could get beyond his plot for revenge, his desire\u2014&nbsp;I mean, he could and should have moved on in a wholesome way, and he moved on in a vengeful way. It\u2019s one of the great themes of problems in literature.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Move on; forget about it. The Lord remembers it no more; you ought not entertain it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;That one, then that one?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver: \u201c<\/strong>Will animals play a role in Zion?\u201d Well, yeah. Yes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;I\u2019m taking&nbsp;<em>my<\/em>&nbsp;dogs.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ll do this one. You can add Scripture to this if you want to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, \u201cI\u2019ve been told that pride is the worst sin, but this confuses me because murder takes away others\u2019 free agency, which I always thought is worse.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, I have had ongoing ideas in my head for the last several years about just trying to make sense of things that I see or believe, and try to synthesize right and wrong down to, you know, six principles. It\u2019s not working, but whatever. And so, I\u2019m going to say\u2026 I\u2019m going to agree that pride is\u2014&nbsp;I\u2019m going to agree with this, that whoever\u2019s told you that pride is the worst sin, that currently is my understanding\u2014my personal understanding. And I\u2019m going with that because pride is the umbrella under which&nbsp;<em>everything else falls<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I watch a lot of TV. It\u2019s kind of an escape; I like it. And&nbsp;<em>pride<\/em>&nbsp;is what leads to murdering someone. And pride is what leads to wanting political power. And pride is what leads&nbsp;<em>to<\/em>. So, I\u2019m hanging onto the fact that pride is the worst sin, or the umbrella under which all other horrible sins fall. So, my challenge would be:&nbsp;Figure out how pride is working in your life. \u2018Cause I doubt you\u2019re murdering people, but I guarantee you, it is holding you back. So, that\u2019s my answer.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You have a scriptural answer to that? Or you just want to move on?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;No, there\u2019s a whole bunch in the Psalms and in the Proverbs\u2014mostly Proverbs\u2014about that stuff.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, here: \u201cIn T&amp;C 31:6-8, the Lord told his disciples anciently of events that would take place when the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled&#8230;includes the following:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>When the times of&#8230;gentiles is come in, a light shall break forth among them that sit in darkness&#8230;it shall be the fullness of [the] gospel, but they receive it not, for they perceive not the light and they turn their hearts from me because of the precepts of men.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>And in that generation shall the times of the gentiles be fulfilled. And there shall be men standing in that generation that shall not pass until they see an overflowing scourge, for a desolating sickness shall cover the land. But my disciples shall stand in holy places and shall not be moved; but among the wicked, men shall lift up their voices, and curse God, and die.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWhat does the Lord mean when He says,&nbsp;<em>But my disciples shall stand in holy places and shall not be moved?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He\u2019s talking about Zion. If\u2014&nbsp;It\u2019s that same\u2014&nbsp;This T&amp;C 31:6-8, keep reading. When you get to verses 14 and 15 of that same thing, the only people that shall not take up arms will flee to Zion, and the terror of the Lord shall be there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There\u2019s an incident that happens when Christ is arrested in Gethsemane, when they come with their swords, they come with their lanterns, and they come to take Him (see John 10:1 RE and Testimony of St. John 10:1). And He, after suffering what He\u2019d suffered, stood up before them. And they\u2019re looking for Him, and He identifies Himself to them: \u201cI am He.\u201d I mean, He\u2019s submitting. They\u2019re confronting the guy that they went to look and find; He\u2019s standing there in front of them, identifying Himself as the one. And they stumble, and they fall backward. I mean, if you take a step backward and there\u2019s another guard behind you, you\u2019re going to fall; and they fell down. It\u2019s one of those Monty Python moments.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But, why do they cower? Why is the presence of the Lord intimidating to those that had come armed to arrest him? It\u2019s because no matter what you may think, there is something palpable about righteousness. There is something&nbsp;<em>tangible<\/em>about the righteousness of God, the power of God, the presence of Holiness; and it is frightening. That incident that\u2019s described about judgment in Mormon, where the people are in this agony in the presence of a just and holy Being? The just and holy Being is doing&nbsp;<em>nothing<\/em>&nbsp;except being there for them to behold. But they feel&nbsp;by the contrast of a just and holy Being with themselves (see Mormon 4:6 RE).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I mean, there\u2019s one of the revelations that we have in&nbsp;<em>our<\/em>&nbsp;Scriptures, that aren\u2019t in anyone else\u2019s, about how at the Second Coming there will be people who are still laden with sin. And they know\u2014 Ministers will&nbsp;<em>know<\/em>&nbsp;that they\u2019ve ministered falsely. And people will&nbsp;<em>want<\/em>&nbsp;to have their sins forgiven, and they will be&nbsp;<em>asking<\/em>&nbsp;people to baptize them. But this is not the day for repentance\u2014this is the day for judgment,&nbsp;and they have to be turned down (see T&amp;C 160:1-4 RE).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Why<\/em>, if they\u2019ve been religious?&nbsp;<em>W<\/em><em>hy,<\/em>&nbsp;if they are a minister? Because ministers, who ministered falsely, are among those that are convicted of their sin at the Second Coming. Why would you be a minister, and now with the return of the Lord and the presence of the Lord, wishing yourself to be hidden from His presence? It\u2019s because there\u2019s&nbsp;<em>authenticity<\/em>. It\u2019s real, and it\u2019s palpable to the program of the Lord and the forgiveness of the Lord. And it&nbsp;<em>cannot<\/em>&nbsp;be&nbsp;<em>faked<\/em>; it cannot be imitated. Because coming face to face with Righteousness is so tangible a reality that you may as well have a pillar of fire by night and a pillar of smoke by day, because&nbsp;<em>that<\/em>&nbsp;is holy ground, and you go not up against that. Not because they\u2019re armed and they have snipers. It\u2019s because it\u2019s dreadful; it\u2019s frightening. It\u2019s something where you do not want to be in the presence of&nbsp;<em>that<\/em>&nbsp;Light and Truth, because you prefer darkness.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ve already\u2026&nbsp;I\u2019ve already\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;All right. Okay, do you want to do this one?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;What is it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;<strong>\u201c<\/strong>The three trees on the front of&nbsp;<em>Preserving<\/em>\u2014&nbsp;Do you know?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:&nbsp;<\/strong>Oh, yeah. No, those are for self-discovery.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;There\u2019s stuff that no one\u2019s ever figured out yet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:&nbsp;<\/strong>I know, I know. Okay, I\u2019ll do this one\u2014another eleven year old who worries about everything. What is up with our worrying eleven year olds? Stop it! Just stop it, stop it, stop it!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Okay. If you\u2019re focused on worry, you\u2019re going to worry \u2018cause you can\u2019t&nbsp;<em>not do<\/em>&nbsp;something you\u2019re focused on. Okay, I don\u2019t know how\u2014&nbsp;I don\u2019t know, I\u2019m not exactly sure how to explain this to an eleven year old, because you\u2019re in fifth grade. You should worry about your bike and your friends and your\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Well, if they ride a bike, they get the target acquisition\/target fixation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay, hold on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;It\u2019s a real deal. Tell them not to\u2014 Yeah, use that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:&nbsp;<\/strong>Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, okay! All right, here\u2019s the thing. I\u2019ll tell you about riding my bike. If you\u2019re riding a bike\u2014it goes for mountain bike riding, skiing, motorcycle riding\u2014it\u2019s called target fixation, okay? So I\u2019m riding my&#8230;let\u2019s do my mountain bike, okay? I\u2019m riding my mountain bike down the mountain, and I see all the rocks that I want to miss. If I look at the rocks I want to miss, I\u2019m going to hit the rocks I\u2019m trying to miss. It\u2019s a real thing. If I fade out the rocks I want to miss and look at the path I want to take to miss my rocks, I\u2019m going to stay on the path, away from the rocks I\u2019m trying to miss.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;You look where you want to go.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;You look<em>&nbsp;<\/em>where you want to go.&nbsp;<em>You look<\/em>&nbsp;where you want to go. You want to go&nbsp;<em>away<\/em>&nbsp;from worry. You want to go&nbsp;<em>toward<\/em>&nbsp;the things that bring you peace. You want to go&nbsp;<em>toward<\/em>&nbsp;the things that bring you joy, that make your life happy, and that help you focus on the positive instead of the negative.&nbsp;<em>Look where you want to go.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;If you\u2019re riding on a rural roadway on a motorcycle and you confront a curve, a turn in the road, the way to keep your bike in track is to look at the end of the curve\u2014because you will adjust the arc of your turn to arrive at the spot you\u2019re looking at without trying to&nbsp;<em>steer your way<\/em>&nbsp;through the thing. You look where you want to go; you look at the end of the curve. You arc the bike to conform to arriving at&nbsp;<em>that<\/em>&nbsp;spot,&nbsp;in that lane, in that track. You look where you want to go.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;You look where you want to go.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Do you want to do that one?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Well, I don\u2019t have my glasses on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;You\u2019ve got to put\u2014 Keep your glasses on!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;No, wait. No, I\u2019m done. I\u2019m through.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Then I\u2019ll answer one more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;I\u2019m going home.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay. Good.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;What is it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;This one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Oh! That\u2019s even the best way!&nbsp;<em>You<\/em>&nbsp;need to answer that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yes?!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Well, yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:&nbsp;<\/strong>Okay. There\u2019s a question: \u201cWill patriarchal blessings be given by our biological fathers?\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sure!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;It\u2019s the only way it\u2019s done in Scripture.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Go ask your dad for a patriarchal blessing. Sounds&nbsp;<em>awesome<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;It\u2019s the only way it\u2019s done in Scripture.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:&nbsp;<\/strong>Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:&nbsp;<\/strong>Almost always it\u2019s done by the oldest one in the patriarchal line. And after that person has been acquainted with someone&nbsp;<em>throughout their life<\/em>, and as they are approaching death and moving into the things that matter most\u2014and in&nbsp;<em>those<\/em>&nbsp;circumstances they bring them back, and they give them their final blessing. It\u2019s the way it happened ever so frequently in the Old Testament&nbsp;<em>and<\/em>&nbsp;in the Book of Mormon. And that\u2019s a better source than it is through some institutional program, in which they train people and give suggestions of a list of criteria that ought to be followed in order to make sure the programs of the Church continue. It\u2019s rather like the prayer circles that have become an instrument for advancing an agenda, in temple rites in the LDS Church, instead of something spontaneous that is heartfelt and may actually stand a good chance of getting the attention of heaven and getting a response.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay, I\u2019m going to answer three more quickly. I can do it quickly, I promise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201c<\/strong>How do I turn down friends who invite me to do Church-related things without hurting their feelings?\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m not really going to answer this. I\u2019m going to ask a question back\u2014a couple questions:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Why do you want to turn them down?<\/li><li>And is this not a good way to maintain friendships and relationships,&nbsp;for people who may need what you have to offer at a later time?<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>So, that\u2019s on you. And to answer the question legitimately, you are not responsible for their hurt feelings. Be polite, be gracious, say, \u201cThank you, but no.\u201d And you cannot help someone else having hurt feelings; that\u2019s just the way life is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201c<\/strong>I am a fifteen year old who plays online shooting games with my friends. (For shame! [Sarcasm.] No&#8230;) I get torn on spiritual focus or being worldly with my friends. How can I choose God and still be kind of a normal teenager?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, you can. Go ahead, play your shooting games; it\u2019s fine. Balance is awesome. (<em>I say,<\/em>&nbsp;play your shooting games; it\u2019s fine. I don\u2019t know what your parents think. That\u2019s not my call, okay?) You know, if you\u2019re finding other ways to be godly and to connect with God, and you feel like your life is pretty balanced, and you\u2019re\u2014&nbsp;I mean, if you\u2019re torn because you\u2019re feeling guilty, because someone is making you feel guilty, I can\u2019t answer that. If you legitimately want to know, my answer would be, \u201cHave a good, balanced life.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The measure in our house was, \u201cDoes it grieve your spirit?\u201d If something you are doing grieves your spirit, then you probably want to steer away from that no matter how many of your friends are doing it, or who\u2019s doing it, or what it is, or what the people around you think is right or wrong about it. If it&nbsp;<em>grieves your spirit<\/em>,<em>&nbsp;<\/em>then I say give it up. But in terms of balancing your life between God and being a normal teenager, I\u2019m pretty sure you\u2019re already doing that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201c<\/strong>Is it a sin to feel proud about your relationship with God, proud of your family members and loved ones, or of your work done towards growing closer to God?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m going to go out on a limb here and say&nbsp;if it\u2019s&nbsp;<em>pride<\/em>&nbsp;you\u2019re feeling, yeah, it\u2019s probably a sin. So, re-evaluate what it is you\u2019re thinking. Was it Alma, who&nbsp;trumped&#8230;and wanted to know&#8230;&nbsp;Do you know? You know what I\u2019m saying, don\u2019t you? What\u2019s the Scripture? What\u2019s the Scripture\u2026&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;No, give me a little more than \u201cAlma,\u201d because Alma said a&nbsp;<em>lot<\/em>&nbsp;of stuff.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Anyway,&nbsp;help me! Help me, help me! What was it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Audience comment:<\/strong>&nbsp;Oh, that I could speak with the trump of an angel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yes! Oh, that I could speak with the trump of an angel (see Alma 15:12 RE). Then it\u2019s like he catches himself\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah, but I sense\u2026&nbsp;Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;He catches himself\u2014because all of a sudden he feels like he\u2019s being too prideful about what he\u2019s saying.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. If you feel happy, if you feel satisfied, if you\u2019re grateful, that\u2019s not pride.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yep.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;If\u2014&nbsp;The difference would be, \u201cI and my family are better than other people.\u201d That\u2019s not it at all. I think I addressed that in the talk just a few minutes ago. But if what you\u2019re feeling is, \u201cI\u2019m so grateful to be in this family. I\u2019m so grateful to have the blessings that God has bestowed upon me. I am so pleased with the circumstances in which I find myself, and it humbles me\u201d\u2014that\u2019s not pride.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Right.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;That\u2019s gratitude.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Right.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;So, I mean\u2014 Was it a fifteen year old?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;No, I don\u2019t know. This is the\u2026yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;We have a lot of emotional-vocabulary&nbsp;ignorance&nbsp;among the youth that confuse them about what it is that is really going on. The word \u2018pride\u2019 is a negative, but the emotion that\u2019s being felt may be&nbsp;<em>misidentified<\/em>&nbsp;as pride. It may, in fact, be satisfaction, gratitude, humility, and appreciation. And if so, then just re-identify your word.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Get a better grasp of the vocabulary meaning&#8230;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:&nbsp;<\/strong>&#8230;because pride can lead to arrogance and haughtiness and condescension towards others, which is never good.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah, I would agree with that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Audience 1:<\/strong>&nbsp;Can I ask one, just very quickly?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Oh, my gosh.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Audience 1:<\/strong>&nbsp;I should have thought of it earlier.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Audience 2:<\/strong>&nbsp;We\u2019re in no hurry.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Audience 1:<\/strong>&nbsp;Can I? Just one?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay. We may not answer it, but go ahead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Audience 1:<\/strong>&nbsp;I just want to know. I noticed that Christ, when people\u2014when He appears to them\u2014are there in His presence, He will say, \u201cCome and touch my, you know, the marks in my hands and feet and side, that you may know that I am Christ.\u201d Can a false Christ bear those marks? You know, to identify a false Christ that may appear to you, would they have those marks?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:&nbsp;<\/strong>The adversary imitates. The adversary counterfeits. The adversary is not in the business of saving souls, he\u2019s in the business of corrupting souls\u2014even if the only corruption he manages to do is slight\u2014in order to hedge up the way and prevent the progress.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Never had a false being try to produce a counterfeit in that fashion, but I have had experience with other forms of counterfeiting that bear remarkable resemblance to things that are, in fact, true. And in that case, it was the content of the message that tipped it off that it was a false message. And at that point, I was able to detect the adversary when he appeared in that manner and to,&nbsp;in the name of the Lord,&nbsp;rebuke and remove him. So, I would say, if an experience like that appeals to pride, appeals to vanity, or delivers anything that is contrary to all of the words of the Lord that we find in Scripture, I would rebuke in the name of the Lord and dismiss, and I would give it no further thought.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And obviously, you don\u2019t rebuke the Lord in the name of the Lord and send Him packing. You would dismiss the adversary in the name of the Lord and send&nbsp;<em>him<\/em>&nbsp;packing. But, the response would tell me something. But it\u2019s also the content, because I have seen the adversary go to&nbsp;<em>extraordinary lengths<\/em>&nbsp;to mock up a false appearance in order to try and to deliver a false message. And I\u2019ve been able to detect and dismiss, and I\u2019ve not fallen captive for any of that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But then, very often, if you\u2019re going to have to deal with the adversary on any substantial matters, you\u2019re usually going to be exposed in a way\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Joseph was exposed in a way that gave him the capacity to detect the adversary in a dramatic way, that cued him in and put him on guard, because that would have prevented a whole lot of mischief from later ensuing (see Joseph Smith History 2:4 RE). Moses on the mount had an encounter with the adversary that, again, gave him a capacity that helped him to detect the adversary thereafter and prevent a lot of mischief (see Genesis 1:3-4 RE). And Christ, after His baptism, in the wilderness was confronted by the adversary in a way that equipped Him on an ongoing basis to deal with that (see Matthew 2:5-7 RE).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Lord\u2019s educational process sometimes requires that you get exposed to the enemy of your soul in order to know how to avoid falling prey to the enemy of your soul. And I know there are people out there that are so befuddled and so concerned about&nbsp;<em>this very issue<\/em>\u2014about the devil misleading\u2014that they&nbsp;<em>cannot<\/em>&nbsp;tell the difference between someone that<em>&nbsp;is<\/em>in the employ of the adversary,&nbsp;and deceived and preaching a false message,&nbsp;and someone that&nbsp;<em>is not<\/em>&nbsp;and has not been deceived,&nbsp;and knows how to detect and rebuke,&nbsp;and has not fallen prey to him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The only advice that I have given to people&nbsp;when it comes to whether they believe anything I\u2019m saying&nbsp;is: Disbelieve all you want. Search, and try to find the errors all you want. But be very careful about what you&nbsp;<em>say&nbsp;<\/em>when someone has been sent on an errand by the Lord, because that is&nbsp;<em>one thing<\/em><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong>on which the Lord absolutely does intend to judge this generation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>I have been given a message from Him<\/em>. I have an errand, and I\u2019m working on it. And I don\u2019t care if you have no interest in it whatsoever; that\u2019s fine. Not everyone who heard the Lord\u2019s message when He was&nbsp;<em>living<\/em>&nbsp;had any interest in what He had to say. And I don\u2019t care if you disregard what I have to say, but I would warn you to be very careful about&nbsp;<em>fighting in opposition<\/em>&nbsp;to what<em>&nbsp;<\/em><strong>the Lord&nbsp;<em>IS<\/em>&nbsp;DOING NOW.<\/strong>&nbsp;<strong>Because He&nbsp;<em>IS<\/em>&nbsp;doing something.<\/strong>&nbsp;And I\u2019m on that errand, and I intend to complete my errand. And fighting against<em>&nbsp;that<\/em>&nbsp;is not fighting against&nbsp;<em>me<\/em>; I\u2019m nothing and no one. But it&nbsp;<em>is<\/em>&nbsp;fighting against the Lord, who intends to vindicate promises made to far greater people than<em>&nbsp;me<\/em>. I just happen to be the weak and ill-fitted vessel that He chooses now to work with. And I\u2019m doing my best.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Okay!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephanie:<\/strong>&nbsp;Let\u2019s go.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;We\u2019re out of here! We\u2019re done. Is there a closing\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Audience comment:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Denver:<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay, then you get up here, and let me get out of here.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This youth question and answer session with Denver and Stephanie Snuffer was recorded at the &#8220;Heavens are Open Conference&#8221; on March 22, 2020 in Hurricane, Utah. 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